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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:32 pm

Currently I’m rebuilding my lost copies of 1e. I’m still looking for MM, FF, PHB, and as many fair condition modules as I can. Anyhoo.. on my recent return journey to RPG I’ve seen the odd mini or miniature version of the core 1e books, including OA and WHB. This is something! I have found no reference to these on any catalogue during my research. Can anyone tell me, where these originate, are they actually useable, what might these cost? Cheers!

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:25 pm

I stumbled across mini copies of these books before, but they were pretty damn all unfortunately, as in not much bigger than a playing card width and height

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:05 pm

Ironclad wrote in 1e mini core books:Currently I’m rebuilding my lost copies of 1e. I’m still looking for MM, FF, PHB, and as many fair condition modules as I can. Anyhoo.. on my recent return journey to RPG I’ve seen the odd mini or miniature version of the core 1e books, including OA and WHB. This is something! I have found no reference to these on any catalogue during my research. Can anyone tell me, where these originate, are they actually useable, what might these cost? Cheers!

Printed in Italy by 21st Century Games.

Wayne's Books has some info and pics here.

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:29 pm

I thought they were awesome when I first saw them, and now have no interest. Mini books are kind of a thing in Italy, maybe other nations in the EU as well. Outside of being different, they really are just decades old reprints. Some people are into them though, not most.

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:09 pm

ashmire13 wrote in 1e mini core books:I stumbled across mini copies of these books before, but they were pretty damn all unfortunately, as in not much bigger than a playing card width and height

So, tricky to read I’m guessing. My eyes aren’t great these days. Are they complete?

Cancel that, I found it. Greyhawk Adventures TSR 2023-21 1999 21st Century Games Miniature Reprint (25th Anniversary) 1:7.5 – Paper Gamer
I like it! Maybe not practical tho

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:22 pm

These things will literally have you blind in a few hours. They were obviously endorsed by every eyeglass manufacturer and ophthalmologist association on the planet. I would have loved to have been in the room when this idea popped into some stooge's head and slapped some sense into them. Its right up there with the invention of those lawn darts we would throw across the yard as kids hoping not to get impaled by one.

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:36 pm

Ironclad wrote in 1e mini core books:So, tricky to read I’m guessing. My eyes aren’t great these days. Are they complete?

They are as complete as they can be, but as you guessed, really not feasible to use, unless your vision is amazing.

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:01 am

I don't have any problem reading them, but my vision is probably hanging in there better than anything else. Anyway they are obviously not for use, much like shrink wrapped modules. There are 7 mini-boxes, 13 mini-books and then then two larger boxes filled with 8 mini Dragonlance modules in one (DL1 through DL8) and the other 8 in the other (DL9-DL16). They are shrink wrapped inside the boxes (four on each side of the box that opens and lays flat).

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:35 am

The DL ones have some really neat packaging. I just found the eye strain to be too much for everyday reading.

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:48 am

stratochamp wrote in 1e mini core books:There are 7 mini-boxes, 13 mini-books and then then two larger boxes filled with 8 mini Dragonlance modules in one (DL1 through DL8) and the other 8 in the other (DL9-DL16). They are shrink wrapped inside the boxes (four on each side of the box that opens and lays flat).

They produced that much? Much more than the cores that I’ve seen so far huh

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 am

Personally, I’d really like the dmg at least in mini form in a frame just for fun

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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:17 pm

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:59 am

Chucho68 wrote in 1e mini core books:
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The seller seems a wee bit confused...

“Used, but LIKE BRAND NEW. No spine cracks, never been read, NM condition!”

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:02 am

I'm encountering a lot of sellers that are trying to have their cake and eat it to by declaring their item Used, but in Mint condition. This is similar to when sellers (including some that don't frequent this site very often nowadays) saying Near Mint except for the stains.

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:12 am

stratochamp wrote in 1e mini core books: saying Near Mint except for the stains.

I just saw an auction for an item in unopened packaging, except the package came open long ago with the decay of age, but nevertheless the seller promises that the contents have never been removed (& subsequently, no guarantees can be made about what is inside this open/not-open package).

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:59 am

ashmire13 wrote in 1e mini core books:Personally, I’d really like the dmg at least in mini form in a frame just for fun

There is an Italian seller on eBay with what you want. It’s around £55, so about the same in $ I think

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:16 am

stratochamp wrote in 1e mini core books: There are 7 mini-boxes

In fact there are 8 mini-boxes :

D&D Basic set (Moldvay)
D&D Expert set (Cook)
World of Greyhawk
Elminster’s ecologies
Dark Sun
Menzoberranzan
Ruins of Undermountain
Ruins of Myth Drannor

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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:14 pm

I've never seen the ruins of myth drannor mini box set. Any more information or pics?

Dvergguden wrote in 1e mini core books:In fact there are 8 mini-boxes :

D&D Basic set (Moldvay)
D&D Expert set (Cook)
World of Greyhawk
Elminster’s ecologies
Dark Sun
Menzoberranzan
Ruins of Undermountain
Ruins of Myth Drannor

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